It's not about the final outcome(which is hard to argue with, obviously everyone would want that), but I understand the sentiment in that I actively don't want a car equipped with all the tech necessary to enable self driving - because it's going to be extremely complicated and costly, not to mention a whole range of privacy concerns that I'm sure a lot of people here share. If we're talking about some ideal imaginary car that's 20k euro and can do self driving with all processing done locally with nothing uploaded to the manufacturer - sure, who wouldn't want that? But we all know it's not at all what the tech is going to be, not for a very very long time, if ever.

I actually completely agree with that. Self driving level 1 is useful, and self driving level 5 will be amazing (if we ever get it). Self driving level 2-4 I'm rather uninterested in.