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Shotspotter is trash.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/chicago-watchdog-harshly...

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1512138327205589004 (criminal defense attorney)

https://boingboing.net/2022/04/12/shotspotter-wastes-million...

I supported units with them while I was a contractor to the US Army, and the soldiers I talked to didn't think much of it either.



It works very well where I live (DC) and I and people I know have seen police respond to actual things with shotspotter

Many shootings where nobody calls it in and cops respond with shotspotter


How would you know no one called it in?

Also ShotSpotter has false positives. You have no way of knowing if you (or it) even heard a gun or one of many other things.


What's the problem with false positives in this case?

I'm pretty sure, "don't bother with this technology which reports shots to the cops, because it has false positives" is a very weak argument.


If the false positive rate is 5%, it’s probably not much of a problem in terms of the overall balance of effectiveness.

If the false positive rate is 95%, it’s pretty obviously going to be a diversion of police resources from whatever else they could be doing if not responding to zero-value alerts.


https://www.edgewortheconomics.com/experience-independent-au...

This claims the false positive rate is under 3%. It's based on Shotspotter's statistics and "independent audit" statistics.

Not sure how trustworthy either is, but without better stats from anywhere else I have no reason to doubt the claim the false positive is pretty low.

Seems like even if false positive rate was at 50% it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Cities have police on patrol at all times anyway - it would just mean sending someone to drive 5 minutes away to see if there is visible a disturbance instead of them driving around the area they were currently randomly patrolling.


If police show up to your family residence with guns drawn for a false positive, you might have a different perspective.


Here is one instance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich

We talked to the cops (not in this instance but in another homicide)


You’re probably thinking of Boomerang, not ShotSpotter if you’re talking about military use.


Maybe? I thought it was the same system of microphones just mounted on a vehicle, maybe it was different.

Anyway, they found it unhelpful. "Wouldn't even notice our own gun shots" and stuff like that.


Yeah, you’re thinking of Boomerang. ShotSpotter did some limited body-worn stuff for the military back in the day, but the vehicle mounted stuff is all Boomerang. Entirely different approaches (distributed microphones vs. a single microphone array at the expected target) done by different companies.




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