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I spend a lot of time thinking about randomness, and after running some tests on the entropy of dark images, I have started to believe that there is a lot less entropy in dark CCD images than people think, but there is still enough to get a useful entropy stream.

A substantial portion of the "noise" from a CCD is definitely not random.




I'm curious, how close to raw CCD data did you get from consumer cameras? It wouldn't surprise me if hard-wired camera internal postprocessing often almost immediately regularizes random noise, even with raw images and software postprocessing turned off. Just a wild-ass guess though.


I didn't use consumer cameras to test this, and I assume cloudflare doesn't either.


I was annoyed at the caginess of your answer until I saw you ran a randomness-as-a-service company and these are low grade trade secrets.


If I were going to take a stab at this, I would guess that most of the "camera" is really unnecessary and that you could do this using just the image sensor.

A lot of the camera is just functionality to make actual pictures better that don't apply here. Eg you don't need to control exposure with shutter speed if it's in a black box.

Having a whole camera might even be counterproductive. Eg actuating the shutter is predictable, so it might reduce entropy if actuating the shutter creates a signal that shows up in the randomness.

Or maybe they just mean pro quality cameras, but I'm not sure why you'd want a whole camera instead of just the sensor. Reasons are not readily apparent, and I don't expect anyone to be immediately ready to correct me on trade secrets.




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