That's the question: is there any calculated fraud here or was he just vastly overly optimistic?
... but even if there is no calculated fraud, I think some Tesla buyers are owed refunds or other compensation. If a company promises me X, I pay for it, and years later has not delivered X, eventually I need a refund.
After 7 years or whatever you can’t keep being “overly optimistic”. At some point it becomes clear it’s just not ready and you need to give people their money back and stop selling it until it is.
If all FSD things were sold with a “really will be in 2 years or 80% of your money back” clause that would be different in my mind.
But taking money and just never delivering is flat out fraud. No matter how many times you say “just one more year”.
... but even if there is no calculated fraud, I think some Tesla buyers are owed refunds or other compensation. If a company promises me X, I pay for it, and years later has not delivered X, eventually I need a refund.