I bought an LG OLED because I could just buy it at costco.

I bought it for what it was not (ie vizio, samsung, sony, tcl) I don't hook it to the internet and I have disabled the nonsense anyway.

Only really (really) annoying thing is the soundbar MUST be wifi, and it creates its own access point.

Can you even get a Panasonic OLED tv?

(also, I have found that unless you have a very dark room, the benefits of oled are lost, especially with dark movie scenes)

I don’t know if they still sell Panasonic OLED in North America, but I can buy it easily in Europe.

OLED is nice, I don’t regret my choice. But yes indeed if you only ever watch in a very bright room, you might not get most of the benefit from an OLED screen. I still find the colors more vibrant in any context compared to LCD and I love that the black is black (instead of greyish) but I can understand the premium isn’t worth it for everyone.

In any case, I understand what you mean by not Samsung or Vizio… These are dumpster fires when it comes to build quality, privacy, software quality, and after sales service/“repairs”

For those who don’t know the term, look up “automated content recognition” and see how Samsung sells absolutely all the data it can gather from your TV, your LAN, your watching habits, what you actually watch… creepy.

I guess I am showing my age maybe, but 10 seconds for a TV to turn on is insanely long for me and seems even more insane when that is perceived as impressive. Companies love their bloatware.

I should have added "considering". Many of my friends' TVs take 20, 30, sometimes even longer between pressing the "on" button (from standby) and actually showing an image/letting you navigate any menu because whatever "smartness" the TV runs has to do... whatever it needs every time.

I should add on the Panasonic, most of the turning on time is spent switching refresh rate to whatever source it's showing.