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When you were reading, did you come across people on a popular forum like hackernews claiming you were inferior and did not belong?


This was mostly pre-internet days. Maybe the internet is just making everything worse.


I think we're long past the point where this is a realistic scenario at least in 99% of situations, what does actually still happen though is coming across articles that fearmonger such for profit whether or not it's true. Those articles tell newcomers they are inferior and do not belong while pretending to be on the newcoming reader's side, despite exploiting them.


It does still happen today. For example, I was describing the comment that started this thread, where someone implied women are inferior programmers.


>For example, I was describing the comment that started this thread, where someone implied women are inferior programmers.

The comment that started this thread did no such thing. In fact, the entire point of that comment was to argue that this is itself an unfair stereotype of the community (i.e. that such a belief is not prevalent).

It instead quoted a claim from the article - which indeed implies this in a vague, hand-waving way, by citing another paper. When I look at the abstract for that paper, in turn, I don't actually see the claim asserted; the closest it comes is

> Challenges that women face in OSS are mainly social, including lack of peer parity and non-inclusive communication from a toxic culture

Also, that paper in turn describes itself as "a survey of the literature".

The whole thing comes across to me as an act of citogenesis (https://xkcd.com/978/).


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42002940

> One follows from the other

There are two ways to interpret this.

Either women are naturally worse programmers and that leads to less interest, or they are less interested in programming which makes women worse programmers.

Unless I am missing another interpretation, both imply women are worse programmers.


Not really sure what you think making up such easily disproved lies does for your case here. The only people who will agree with you on this are people who already agree with some kind of intense dogma.




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