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Yes, I think a lot of Trump voters are just trying to force this to a head so we can reset and shake the bugs out of what is clearly a political system that is going off the rails.


I think it is naive to attribute this victory to accelerationists. Trump has a very clear mandate and this seems to be what the American people want now.


> Do Trump voters really think he's going to improve their lives?

Nope, but ask how many of them expect their sons to have to kneel in the next four years.

You aren't asking the right questions.

PS. Not American, think he' a dick, but spent a half-century watching hundreds of millions where I live keep voting for the worst people.


> The more important question, who are those people that happily vote for a convicted felon, rapist

Some people voted for him because of that.

He was found guilty on 34 counts of paying a pornstar, Many people see it a persecution not prosecution because he doesn't even know what he's guilty of. The judge allowed jurors to decide on whatever secondary charge they wanted and not even have to tell him what it is. They didn't even have to agree on a single crime, as long as they all found a one.

He denied he raped that woman (who doesn't even remember what year she was raped in) so she sued him for defamation. Jury found him not guilty of rape, but guilty of sexual assault. The judge reversed the decision saying that sexual assault is basically rape so he awarded her millions of dollars.

In both cases laws were changed specifically so he could be charged. Alvin Bragg even ran for district attorney on a platform of getting Trump.

Donald Trump ran his 2016 campaign on getting Hillary, but never actually did it. The Democrats actually prosecuted him by any means necessary.


Trump voters think the conviction was excessive, the rapist claim is untrue, and that he is not a bad person.

They believe he will improve the economy and thus their lives.

They did not vote spitefully against Harris, however, due to the pressure from left wing controlled law makers, media, talking heads and general vitriol from the left of their opinions... they might have voted spitefully against progressives in opposition.


The media people consume will never portray Trump like you are doing just now, their vision of Trump is so distorted that you can't really even tell them any of those things, they will just disregard it as nonsense.


If Hamas had not attacked Israel, trump probably would have lost. Plenty of people just didn't go out to vote this time, abstaining because they only care that Biden and Harris support Israel. Talk about cutting off their nose to spite their face.


Statistics show that Israel/Palestine wasn't really an important issue for voters on either side.


This hypothesis doesn't pan out when looking at states that flipped Blue to Red.

The biggest reason for Trump's win is the fact that 50% of Latinos, 46% of Asians, and 20% of African Americans voted for Trump - all significant increases compared to 2020.

And the biggest reason for that flip is because of Illegal Immigration and Inflation - for legal immigrants illegal immigration is basically a big F-you for following the correct path, and inflation has had a general impact nationwide.


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I'm Asian...

And my dad flipped to Trump for those very reasons.

The Trump team built a very strong minority outreach apparatus, and actually microtargeted based on ethnicity.

The Dems were not granular enough so their messaging didn't land.


From the outside looking in sometimes I wonder if it's the democrats that are the ones that "have a black friend" and use minorities as props, not the republicans...


I doubt you have a single black person that would call you a friend.


No I don't, and even in my own context (I'm not American) I don't have much friends outside my own background - but I do know what it's like to see people perform performative "inclusion" and throw (insert group here) under the bus when said group doesn't do what they want them to do - in case it wasn't clear my comments were based on how quickly some people were quick to go "I hope those (minority voters that went trump) get a taste of what they voted for"


You write like those people are wrong on not wanting to support a very clear and blatant genocide by a foreign belligerent state.


You do know Trump will deliver whatever Netanyahu wants right?


Yeah. He will.


"my workplace does not allow open toed shoes" class Americans all over the political spectrum are sooooo much more sick of the foreign wars the "everyone in my workplace has some sort of college degree" class Americans think they are.


Not really. There is a reason Ron Paul didn't win in 2008 and 2012 despite dominating early social media.


No matter how dank the memes no 3rd party meme candidate will ever win. The two big parties are just too rich and powerful and you need the support of one of them to have a legitimate chance.


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We're well aware people are looking to genocide us, yes.


Not you all, you specifically. And for your rhetoric too.


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Apparently that's the case.




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