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> Most men care.

I don't think so, caring means doing something about it, if men weren't deeply misogynistic there would have been a woman president decades before. The behavior of men is not surprising however and is expected.

What is shocking is half the women in this country also don't care about their own interests either.

It is one thing for immigrants or working class to be voting against their own interests, economic and border policies are abstract and people historically have failed to attribute links to the administration responsible. Abortion is not abstract however, the linkage to right-wing policy is straightforward.



I'm not American, and we've had a female president. Clearly we're not misogynistic over here, then. Maybe it's something in the water.

> What is shocking is half the women in this country also don't care about their own interests either.

Aren't you just assuming for women to care about just one political issue here?...


It is not abstract political issue like the economy or immigration.

Every woman between 18(and sadly lot younger but they cannot vote ) and 45 is affected directly personally by reproductive healthcare . It is an issue they get reminded about every month physically.

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Electing women heads of state , is an exceptionally low bar on misogyny scale, that only the Middle East, lesser developed parts of Africa and United States have in common .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_and_appointe...

Even non Middle Eastern Islamic countries like Pakistan or Bangladesh where stoning for accusations of adultery is still a thing have democratically elected women leaders .

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People aren’t voting for trump for his policies, neither he nor his supporters can articulate what they clearly.

2016 was explained about how it was an anti-establishment vote , Hillary had baggage .

2024 the discourse is already it the economy

record numbers voted for him in 2020 when he had the by far worst possible economy of any president ever. Biden only scrapped through by thinnest of margins .

It is disingenuous to then argue that people were smart enough to understand the reason behind the economy then , but cannot comprehend the economic consequences of 2020 policies and the trends of today to attribute to Biden .

It is always something else, we should own who we are as a society.


Or maybe she was a bad candidate?

Who in their right mind votes based on the sexual organs a person has?


So many times I have seen women say "we aren't ready for a woman president, they're too hysterical"

The misogyny is so deep that women experience it from other women.


many women I asked are absolutely ready, but every single one of them were depressed at the idea of Harris being the first. given she can’t put a sentence together they didn’t want the shame.


I know so many women who far more affable than Harris, yet the democrats can’t find a single one to run


When there are life or death issues at stake regarding those organs , which organs they have absolutely warrants consideration


Sorry but no. Doctors need to do their job and read the laws. They’re smart enough. Keep going though, that’s clearly a winning topic with even women voting against it.


> Keep going though, that’s clearly a winning topic with even women voting against it

Results in Missouri, Kansas, Montana, Arizona, Ohio, Nevada either yesterday or in the last year, that voted for trump but also voted protections for it say otherwise.

National ban is on the cards now, controlling the courts, Senate and presidency and likely the house it is quite within reach. There is nothing further to say, predictions and warnings have no clearly no effect, perhaps lived experience might, or we keep blaming healthcare workers or immigrants for everything, whatever works.


> National ban is on the cards now

nope. still the left haven’t learned what decentralized power and states rights are. there will be no federal ban. keep spreading misinformation if you like but as the country has already shown you, we don’t believe it anymore.


Comstock act and its power exists . Even if it doesn’t , there is no state law which can supersede the federal government right to regulate interstate commerce , no healthcare system can survive today without interstate commerce .

I would be happy to be proven wrong , but I wouldn’t count on a strongman being restrained in using the power the court; legislatures and executives have given him.




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