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Poorer and poorer? Hard fact is that Trump presidency delivered actual (i.e. inflation adjusted) wage growth for people in many years, so your perception of reality might not be accurate as what media propagates and makes people believe. As for "women's rights," I take it as abortion policy in particular, which compared to your baseline of Europe is actually not that far off, depending on the state/country used as a point of comparison. There is a reason a majority of people vote for him.

I can see how Europeans are particularly put off by President Trump. His trade and NATO policy requires Europe to uphold their end of the bargain, right or wrong, as he sees it, and increase trade with their US ally, which is not necessarily what Europeans or globalists want.




> Hard fact is that Trump presidency delivered actual wage growth for people in many years

Do you have a source for this claim? Covid did end up causing salary increase I know, but we can hardly attribute that to the president


BLS data is public and can be crunched from here https://www.bls.gov, but posing the basic question to ChatGPT:

Wage Growth:

Obama: Modest but steady wage growth, particularly from 2015 onwards. Real wage growth averaged 0.5%–1.0%.

Trump: Stronger wage growth pre-pandemic, with real wage growth averaging 1.0%–1.5%, but the pandemic and high inflation in 2021 dampened these gains.

Inflation:

Obama: Inflation was relatively low and stable, averaging around 1.3%–1.5%.

Trump: Inflation was low until 2021, when it surged to 5.4%, outpacing wage growth.

Real Wage Growth vs. Inflation:

Obama: In the later years of his presidency, wage growth generally outpaced inflation (2015–2016).

Trump: Wage growth outpaced inflation until 2021, when inflation surged and surpassed wage increases.


I don’t think ChatGPT should be cited as source


I cited the actual source. You can do the analysis yourself to verify. I'm sorry I don't have time to manually distill it further for you.

That said, I also don't think my specific claim is commonly disputed by the other side.


The BLS data seem to disagree with ChatGPT; It states that average wage growth for both Obama and Trump (pre pandemic) were similar at around 3% and inflation for Obama was around 1-2% and Trump (pre pandemic) 2-3%




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