Right, so the conversation has pivoted from "Trump never said that!" to "Okay, Trump said that... but he doesn't mean it" to "Okay, he said it and I actually agree"
> Deporting illegal immigrants is perfectly normal
Not with the military it's not.
That also doesn't explain his attack on naturalized citizens and Tom Homan's talk about deporting citizens who have family which are illegal. This also doesn't cover DACA and other programs.
Trump is not aiming to deport just illegals, and my source for that is Trump, Tom Homan, and Project 2025. Again, this isn't about you taking me at my word. This is about you taking Trump at his word.
> Dissolving the department of education? So what?
Multiple reasons:
1. the DOE provides financial support for citizens for upward socioeconomic mobility, meaning they put people in college. That's very important for the millions of very smart, but very poor, Americans.
2. Many impoverished and typically red states rely on federal funding from the DOE. The DOE works as a big pot - every state contributes via taxes, and each gets some back. Some, like California, lose more than they gain. Some, like Oklahoma, gain much more than they put in. Red states like Oklahoma, which ranks 49th in education, rely on that funding because they have a weak economy.
This is also just one aspect of Project 2025, I merely used it as an example to show that Project 2025 is real. If you're not aware, Project 2025 is a blueprint for how to transition the US to a fascist regime.
Maybe it won't all be implemented, maybe it will. The fact you don't know about it, and the fact you refuse to listen to Trump, is mind-boggling to me. Okay, so why did you vote for him if you think he's a liar? It makes no sense. You're not doing your fellow republicans any favors - this is exactly the type of stuff that leads people to believe you're misinformed and largely make decisions based purely off of propaganda.
No. Your claim, which I disagree with is "he explicitly stated he wants to use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US".
How is it to retain power?
> the DOE provides [...]
Yea, of course it does something. But it's not unspeakably bad to not have that department do that. As I said, nearly every other country in the world "suffers" from not having a DOE, because they have no other countries sharing a pool of education funding with them. Somehow their people seem to accept that and even favor independence.
> If you're not aware, Project 2025 is a blueprint for how to transition the US to a fascist regime.
I'm not aware. I just looked up their website which listed their aims. Fascist regime wasn't among them. What's your source for that?
Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power.
That's in addition to his other power plays, such as stripping the bureaucracy and requiring all federal employees to formally announce their loyalty to Trump. That one's in Project 2025.
If that doesn't sound like fascism I don't know what does.
And you keep asking me for sources. Yeah, Trump, his administration, and Project 2025. You know, the stuff you voted for?
If you're trying to not make Trump supporters look like bumbling idiots you're not doing a particularly good job. Naturally, I already know most Trump supports are horribly misinformed about their own platform, so don't try so hard to further prove it to me.
> Deploying the military as intimidation and using it to remove US citizens is a ploy to retain power.
He wanted to use it to protect election security if there was violence or intimidation from "internal enemies". That's not intimidation, except to intimidate people trying to intimidate voters to corrupt elections.
Who are these citizens he wants to deport? Are they only naturalized citizens? Those people can already legally be deported anyway for reasons like a fraudulent application or committing a serious crime. Are those the same ones he wants to deport? In other words, does he just want to enforce the law that already exists? Regardless, that's not to retain power. You have no evidence for that part which is key to your whole claim. Everything else you claimed is just what the government should be doing anyway.
Right, so the conversation has pivoted from "Trump never said that!" to "Okay, Trump said that... but he doesn't mean it" to "Okay, he said it and I actually agree"
> Deporting illegal immigrants is perfectly normal
Not with the military it's not.
That also doesn't explain his attack on naturalized citizens and Tom Homan's talk about deporting citizens who have family which are illegal. This also doesn't cover DACA and other programs.
Trump is not aiming to deport just illegals, and my source for that is Trump, Tom Homan, and Project 2025. Again, this isn't about you taking me at my word. This is about you taking Trump at his word.
> Dissolving the department of education? So what?
Multiple reasons:
1. the DOE provides financial support for citizens for upward socioeconomic mobility, meaning they put people in college. That's very important for the millions of very smart, but very poor, Americans.
2. Many impoverished and typically red states rely on federal funding from the DOE. The DOE works as a big pot - every state contributes via taxes, and each gets some back. Some, like California, lose more than they gain. Some, like Oklahoma, gain much more than they put in. Red states like Oklahoma, which ranks 49th in education, rely on that funding because they have a weak economy.
This is also just one aspect of Project 2025, I merely used it as an example to show that Project 2025 is real. If you're not aware, Project 2025 is a blueprint for how to transition the US to a fascist regime.
Maybe it won't all be implemented, maybe it will. The fact you don't know about it, and the fact you refuse to listen to Trump, is mind-boggling to me. Okay, so why did you vote for him if you think he's a liar? It makes no sense. You're not doing your fellow republicans any favors - this is exactly the type of stuff that leads people to believe you're misinformed and largely make decisions based purely off of propaganda.