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I think their complexity is very different

C++ the language is exceptionally complicated, but the ecosystem is relatively simple

Java is the opposite, the language itself is simple enough but the ecosystem is humongous (spring/J2EE, maven/gradle, n^2 logging frameworks/adapters, application servers, anything involving classloaders/annotation processing/dynamic bytecode manipulation, ...)

syntactically they look similar, but other than that there's not much in the way of transferable skills between the two




Totally agree! Because of the zero-garbage and no-gc requirement we don't even use the JDK. We use Java as syntax language and write everything from scratch, even the data structures (java.util.HashMap produces garbage). So the bloated Java ecosystem does not affect us too much.


yeah we're the same, our java looks very much like C

unfortunately all the data from outside our strange world still needs to be brought in and cleaned up :)




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