Yeah I think people don’t realize just how dire it is at Intel. The talk above of the culture being on a death march can easily be explained by the jobs at intel having literally nothing at stake. And they announced even more layoffs and wage freezes at the last quarterly earnings.

It’s not an engineering run company like the successful big tech companies. Everyone working at intel is there temporarily and there’s no reason to build a long term career there. You jump asap.

I don’t see the shareholders voting for a reasonable tripling (quadrupling?) of engineer salaries anytime soon given the short term thinking track record. Which means I think the only way out is for an entirely new engineer run company to appear.

Intel have run on momentum to this point. They actually have 10nm foundries operational due to some level of talent continuing to persist over the past 20 years. They can’t seem to get much further past that (smaller nodes than that have reported terrible yields). They have more or less competitive cpus for sale (although they clearly hit a wall in that aspect to the point the latest CPUs bench exactly the same or worse than their own previous generations).

I think the momentum has definitely run out and the talent is gone at this point. The momentum is now in the other direction. Morale is dire, no one working there gives anymore of a fuck about their job than the kid pushing trolleys at the grocery store. Their CPUs are not advancing with each generation at all anymore and they cannot get reasonable yields on newer fab nodes.