Actually I find it very impossible to do anything on deepseek. I asked some questions - it was doing well with childish things, but apparently it disliked that I questioned what Chinese think about Russia. It stalled all the other questions with reply that I have used too many queries(if that is really the case, then the bar is so low, that you can forget about asking programming questions).
That was yesterday - today it started to bully me by answering in Chinese. When I asked why it is bullying me, it froze.
Fuck this - any programmer can build their own model for what they can get from these sensitive and overcontrolling models.
PS Western models are also censored - if not by law, then self-censored, but the issue is for me is not censorship but being in dark what and why is being censored. Where do you learn about those additional unwritten laws? And are those really applicable to me outside of China or does companies decide that their laws are above laws of other countries?
I need to add the context about the question of Russia.
I asked if Chinese has prophecies(similar to Nostradamus), because I genuinelly do not know much about Chinese culture.
Then I asked, if any of those prophecies have anything about future of Russia. (Regardless if Prophecies are right, like the Nostradamus[who predicted precise length of USSR] just like fairy tales give insight of collective mind of society)
How any of this can be considered inconsiderate? Is there any internal policy, that Chinese, including AI companies have been forbidden to talk about Russia - current situational ally(that Chinese denies) - potentially future victim of Chinese invasion in next few years, when Russia will crumble apart? Given that my mind works slightly different than other people, why do I have to come to conclusion that topics about Russia are raising very big red flag? Nothing of this is in Tos. And - no I am not bullying AI in any way. Just asking very simple questions, that are not unreasonable.
PS I had to go through the list of prophecies that deepseek gave me - there was nothing about Russia there. It is so simple - that should be the answer. But I am happy that I went through some of those prophecies and found out that probably all of them are made up to serve whatever agenda was needed at the moment, so they were always fabricated.
You got what you wanted from the model, why are you unhappy with the results? It is not as if chatgpt and claude don't also restrict users for small "ToS violations".
Thanks for the concern of my happiness, but can I express my concern for your eye sight - where did you read that I am unhappy about results? My, as you have named it - "unhappiness", is about not knowing rules and not being pointed out, that I am overstepping those rules.
If you are going with the approach, that silence is also an answer, then yes they can be considered as results, just as receiving complete garbage to known facts.
maybe the developers are just tired of this childish game and decided to block interactions like this in place of creating news headlines? Garbage in, garbage out. DeepSeek is more efficient but even more efficient is to not waste computing.
Honestly, you should change your statements for other people, as by default I assumed, that you were serious... I'm being sarcastic here - have to add this as people do not hear sarcastic tone in text and assume it to be serious.
Also, what makes you think I did not try it for code? It did not generate code, that I found acceptable to me and required a lot more work. But at least it gave me honest answer there, that it could offer links to better papers. I don't see that much difference with ChatGPT, as they might probably allow more queries to paying customers, but on the other side - did I mentioned that I read TOS? I would never use AI tools to create my own code for commercial use, that is not open source. Because why in the right mindd should I do that?
I eventually got bored with this tool, just ike with ChatGPT(also, I can write better code anyway, so not real use to me now). Code is not as important as data which is the basis of programming. And I am still interested in understanding logic of other programmers, when I see a code(and behaviour of their creation), that I have to ask wth were they thinking. And test it more.
I am a human, that can programm and I will ask political questions first, because morality and politics are affecting my efficiency as a programmer. If I can't think freely, I won't work on that. So, unless you are a CCP shill and not concerned that your code and logics is recorded and eventually can be stolen, you can use whatever.
And the discussion is over. You won. DeepSeek will take our freedom, we gotta stop it!
Now talking serious. This thread is about deepseek R1 for coding. It is great, a lot better than Claude and ChatGPT. If you are a programmer, you should try it for coding, not for politics.
PS Western models are also censored - if not by law, then self-censored, but the issue is for me is not censorship but being in dark what and why is being censored. Where do you learn about those additional unwritten laws? And are those really applicable to me outside of China or does companies decide that their laws are above laws of other countries?