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USDS really did represent the best of the federal government. They modernized hundreds of websites, brought accessibility and mobile access to the forefront, improved usability, and a lot of that work is invisible, slow, internal politics/battles.

Understandably everyone is upset about what "DOGE" is doing. But on top of those harms, the killing of USDS (or at least ending its core mission) is also a real harm.



I'm not a federal contractor nor employee, and I am a die-hard Pivotal zealot, so absolutely take the following with a grain of pink Himalayan rock salt:

Although overshadowed by Kubernetes elsewhere in the industry, I suspect that Pivotal's Cloud Foundry Platform as a Service (PaaS)--which the US General Services Administration's (GSA) internal digital transformation consultancy, 18F, adopted[0] in 2015 significantly influenced the software delivery philosophy of the federal government by making trivial heretofore disastrously cumbersome provisioning, staging, and deployment processes. The step away from hand-provisioned virtual machines to elastic, accommodating environments may have made agile development possible in federal offices, bringing our government into the 21st century, only fifteen years late.

I distinctly remember the switch from "here's your VM" to "here's my code," and--as an application developer--I never want to go back.

0. See: https://cloud.gov


To me, that's the most important goal of devops tools teams in practice:

"Internal team, what's your current greatest pain point?" -> Make that easier / faster / better


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Some people want a leaner government, but they also want that achieved with care and thoughtfulness by domain experts. Chesterton's fence comes to mind.


This seems unlikely. If even 5% of Trump voters don’t want to see this, that very likely means less than half of voters wanted this. That’s a very small margin to work with. From here in Canada it doesn’t look like this is a popular action to take.

I could be wrong and maybe tons of democrat voters want to see this… But what I’m seeing online indicates otherwise.


No candidate received more than 50% of the votes cast in the last US presidential election.


Okay, what I meant is more like "if only 5% of the largest body of voters don't want what the administration they voted for is doing, it's very possible that more than 50% of all voters combined (regardless of who they voted for) don't want what's happening"


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Odd claims and you didn't really support it (I use Google to find everything doesn't matter how well organized the site is). Why do you have inherent bias against public sector tech workers

>My tax dollars are better spent not having a website in most of these cases.

Blame your rep for it then. We don't set the budget. We vote in people we trust are in our best interest to set such spending.


> Why do you have inherent bias against public sector tech workers

huh?


Your comment is flagged now, but I recall you saying seething to the effect of "the idea that a government website is laudable is laughable". There were general sentiments that a government website was naturally disposed to he a chaotic mess. I identified that as a bias against a government website. Aka the workers who work on it.


Sound fcc.gov has not been using the USDS playbook.


The US government was funding Afghan farmers to grow 'crops'. I'm fairly sure that wasn't cotton.


in Seeds Of Terror by Gretchen Peters points out those subsidies helped farmers NOT farm opium for the Taliban. If you think of it from an Afghani farmer's perspective: why would you farm any other crop that pays significantly less per yield when you have a family to feed?


Congress doesn't allow for funding of crops in other counties that compete on the international market.


Seems like they do


It was strawberries.




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