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I know I'll get downvoted for this, but it seems like telling the truth is now a downvote-worthy offense on Hacker News. I thought we had become more open-minded, especially with the new sheriff in town.



What does it mean, that "EU is nothing" without US involvement? You might want to write something more substantial if you don't want those votes.


What technological advancements has the EU developed in the past 20 years that are widely used today?


Arguably 4G networks were developed in Europe and they are widely used.

It's a marathon, not a sprint. I live with a high living standard with access to good health care. Hey, I also live in a democracy, and you're right that I think we need to defend that well. Let's hope & see if we have what it takes..

And most of the world doesn't run on fancy new gizmos (that don't make money for the shareholders anyway). Europe is still rich because it produces high value items like steel from iron ore, and machines and cars from steel.


Linux?


mrna, stable diffusion, extreme ultraviolet lithography, CRISPR, graphene isolation, ozempic... are the first that come to mind.


Is this really all European? A couple things where it seeks your claim is wrong…

MRNA - Pfizer, Moderna, and DARPA (who was involved in funding research) are all American. Just not BioNTech

Stable diffusion - the original diffusion paper was at Stanford in the US, not Europe

EUV - a DARPA project whose tech was licensed to ASML

That said, American tech depends on getting great talent from all over.


BioNTech was founded by 2 turks, they are not even european lol :)


They are both German citizens instead of showing false national pride you should think about why you had an astronomical brain drain over the last 20 years.


Either you like it or not like it, your system is falling and is not competitive.


good discussion but I guess with that name nothing else to expect.


Smartphones?




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