> black applicants were more than 9 times more likely to be admitted to medical school than Asians (56.4% vs. 5.9%), and more than 7 times more likely than whites (56.4% vs. 8.0%)
If the number of Asian applications is 10x the number of spots available, their admittance rate can never be higher than 10%. No “discrimination” required. Same for white applicants.
If you only have 10 black applicants and you accept 5 of them that’s a 50% admittance rate. Which looks huge and you can scaremonger about how much bite and Asian people are unfairly getting sidelined.
Until you see there were 10,000 white applicants with a 8% admittance rate, ie 800 people.
800 from 8% vs 5 from 50%.
Again without absolute numbers the percentages can be very deceiving.
Your argument doesn't work because the data already accounts for differences in GPA and MCAT scores. It’s not comparing total applicants—it’s comparing applicants with the same academic qualifications.
If admissions were race-neutral, then students with the same GPA and MCAT score should have similar acceptance rates. But the data shows black and Hispanic applicants get accepted at much higher rates than equally qualified Asian and white applicants.
Your example about total applicants (10 vs. 10,000) doesn’t apply here because the issue isn’t how many people applied, but who gets in when they have the same credentials.
I’m all for diversity but that admissions gap is just racism.
You can’t have separate entrances for your establishment based on what folks look like, the group you prefer getting better service doesn’t make it equality.
It’s not the case that every single black applicant gets admitted before a single white/Asian applicant does. The point is that it’s much, much easier for a black applicant to get admitted.
A black applicant with GPA and MCAT scores in the lowest bucket still has a 56% chance of admission. That’s on par with an Asian applicant who has GPA and MCAT scores in the highest bucket.
There have been studies suggesting that elimination of the MCAT does little to nothing to prediction of student performance beyond the second year or so.
My prediction is the correlation is about 0.30-0.40.
As others have pointed out, there are a lot of unmeasured variables not being controlled for in this finding as well.
I'm not surprised board exam scores predict outcomes, I just think there's lots of other variables along that path from one to the other, and even more from MCAT -> board exam.
I'm just suggesting that the observed prioritization of DEI objectives at the expense of the admission process not being completely merit-based likely results in some additional deaths. I agree that there are multiple factors involved that will predict physical competency, not just those that the DEI policies adversely affect.
So do you think that if the acceptance rate for high MCAT and GPA are below 100%, then the other bars should be zero? i.e, these are the only admissions criteria that should be considered?
its easy to hide data behind percentages and say 94% of the blacks who had a certain GPA where admitted. look at the raw numbers, study after study have shown improved care for colored patients and outcome better when treated by black physicians which indicates we have to have proportional numbers of black and hispanic physicians representative of their population. If whites and asians disproportionately apply to medical schools their admission rates are going to look different. The systemic advantage afforded to affluent kids by being brought up for 18+ years by highly educated parents is not level playing field.
Where they randomly assign black male patients to white or black doctors, IIRC, and patients get advice on preventative care. Outcomes for black patients are better because they are more willing to take black doctors' advice. Obviously, newborns in the first study, so it's about doctor competence straight-up.
This is a study my wife wrote regarding this exact scenario, trying to see if patients think they’re getting better care if they’re similar to the doctor (and team) treating them!
