Just FYI, you can't expect intelligent conversations on HN about anything related to Elon Musk. A small vocal group really hate him, and we know that passion (especially if politically motivated) retards intelligence.

> we know that passion (especially if politically motivated) retards intelligence.

So that's why Elon is so retarded! The whole "ketamine" and "full self driving" nonsense was starting to make me worried. It was actually passion this whole time - how touching.

If someone likes Musk, they are not necessarily an idiot. They could also be a sociopath.

Not liking Musk, on the other hand, doesn't really tell anything about a person except for that one fact.