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Trump's been talking about tariffs for far longer than the current t-note cycle. He was talking about it a decade ago during his first time in office. IIRC he ran for POTUS as a Reform Party candidate in the 90s or 00s, and that party was started by Ross Perot, who was against NAFTA on the grounds that it'd cause a giant sucking sound of American jobs to Mexico.

He doesn't care about the debt; you can see this in how he pays taxes.

What he needs is something that lets the rich have their cake and eat it too. He needs to appear to be doing something for working-class American manufacturing jobs, while making the people that would fill those jobs bear the brunt of the impact. Tariffs are an expedient way to do that. They don't have to be approved by Congress and are effectively an autocratic way of raising taxes. They apply to prices first, not revenues, and they're simple to implement. The surplus value that used to head to shareholders as a result of cheap foreign goods will go down, but that can be offset by layoffs and the like.

The refinancing, if it's even a viable plan, is a nice side-effect.



> The surplus value that used to head to shareholders as a result of cheap foreign goods will go down, but that can be offset by layoffs and the like.

could you just do the layoffs without the tariff if it were a conspiracy?


But then what are you doing to "help" American manufacturing?


I mean clearly nothing but why does that matter


Gotta have a hook. Look at how he did in the Upper Midwest in '24 vs. '20. That was through appealing to the manufacturing base. There are elements of that bloc that have wanted tariffs for decades.

If you lay off people to send the stock price up, you are the enemy. If you do it to "protect American manufacturing", you're a hero.

Well, to a very niche part of the voting public, but it's enough.


sure but you can basically say whatever you want. Remember the trump tax plan is just 'cut taxes on the rich and provide industrial subsidies' and that works just fine. No need to chop share prices while you're at it with a silly tariff.


That's not nearly enough to win his base. That's been the plan for the GOP since... forever. This is "going after the establishment" with a tariff.

Now, does it benefit anyone? Hell no. But the tariffs are the hook that make him different from decades of GOP free trade globalization policy.




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