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Feeding people lines about what “they need” or what their neighbors might be doing is manipulative. All advertising attempts to be manipulative, IMO.

But, I’ll play along for a moment: If trying to convince people they need something that oftentimes they simply don’t isn’t manipulation, then what is it? It isn’t simply informative because it’s attempting to change one’s mind.






I think we might disagree in terms of the kinds of advertising we're talking about.

The best advertising for me is showing me a product and showing me how it's used -- the "Coca Cola will make you have friends and have a good time" style ads could be construed as manipulative, I totally get that, but if I see an ad that just says "here's the product, here's what it does" for a product that _actually_ solves a problem I have, that's pretty great in my book, and is a win-win for me and whoever makes the product.


If I saw ads that simply informed that would be amazing. I never see those ads. At all.

What I see are endless billboards, posters, murals on the sides of buildings, cars, busses, etc. I see it everywhere. Its inescapable!

Must be nice living in that different world. Can I get a ticket to wherever you are??


> “here’s the product, here’s what it does”

Belongs in catalogues, store listings, the manufacturers website, product search engines, not forced into view when you’re trying to do something else.

It’d be perfectly reasonable even to have sites listing or aggregating new and updated products, or social media accounts that post about interesting [new or otherwise] products, as long as they’re not paid to place or promote products, too.




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