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> Almost everything I've seen achieved with vibe coding so far has been long since achievable with low / no code platforms.

I tried showing someone Bubble as a solution to a fairly simple workflow (one form input, a few LLM calls, an output) that they should have been able to build in minutes.

It was a horrific experience, as Bubble can't find the right balance between being "no-code" (simple) and "powerful enough" with customizations. The end result is that in my experience a non-technical person just can't get workflows to work in Bubble without investing a massive number of hours.

In comparison, getting this done with either vanilla Claude.ai or Lovable is a *single* prompt. Just one!

I think you are deeply underestimating the difference for true non-technical users. Or even bored/overwhelmed technical users who need something done that's non-mission-critical and would just never get done if it took hours of messing with a no-code GUI, vs. dictating it through whisper and letting the AI agent go at it.



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