The language yes, the way the community embraces the platform and ecosystem that makes their existence possible in first place, not as much.

What do you consider as 'embracing the platform and the ecosystem'? As far as I'm aware Scala is fully interoperable with anything on the JVM.

Community, I wasn't talking about the language itself.

It puts me off having a programming language that depends on the Java the Virtual Machine, Java the programming language, Java the ecosystem, so that their language could exist in first place, and then talk down on it.

Still waiting on Scala Native or Kotlin Native to take over JVM and the standard library.

Clojure community isn't like that, while they try to stay on Lisp like land, they embrace the ecosystem (JVM and JS), without putting it down at every opportunity.

How can Scala 'talk down' the platform it exists on? This doesn't even make sense. You know the creator of Scala made deep contributions (generics) to the JVM, right? Scala's sbt is used by many Java projects as a build system. Its Play Framework and Akka actor system are super popular in Java too because they provide idiomatic Java APIs. Projects like Spark keep JVM relevant for Big Data. SoftwareMill's Ox project builds directly on top of JVM virtual threads and structured concurrency. I haven't even heard of any equivalent Clojure project.

You have it exactly backwards, I'm afraid.

The community, do I have to letter spell you, why do you keep talking about Scala the language, Scala projects?

Why do I care what is written in Scala, how well it interoperates with the JVM, or whatever Scala projects are successful, when I am talking about how human beings talk down about another piece technology, its limitations and warts, how it prevents the language greatness, that by accident happens to be the underlying infrastructure of their beloved language?

Do you rather have links to discussions on Reddit, Twitter discussions and what not?

I never said anything about the creator specifically.

> Why do I care what is written in Scala, how well it interoperates with the JVM, or whatever Scala projects are successful, when I am talking about how human beings talk down about another piece technology

There are always a few loudmouths in every community, you are making the classic mistake of judging everyone by that same brush. Most people using Scala are using it exactly because of the JVM, otherwise what's the point? There are great languages on other platforms too.

A few people use it to push the boundaries of what's possible on the JVM, and it is thanks to these people and the Scala team themselves that the JVM continues its evolution and the Java language continues to acquire more Scala-like features. It's not a zero-sum game, everyone is benefitting here.