> Why would it be condescending to remind people actions have consequences?
I think yes, explicitly. I think every person on planet Earth is aware actions have consequences. That's never been a debate. The debate is always what consequences have come from what actions, and to what extent.
You're not allowed call a burgeoning fascist movement fascists until they get into power, or else you're crying wolf, say finger-wagging moderates. Now the fascists are in all seats of government consolidating power and you're still wagging your finger about crying wolf. Hope you're happy. Maybe you are.
My parents and my grand parents lived under fascist dictatorship. My grandfather was interned into a labor camp by Mussolini's fascist regime. I know what fascism is and you don't! All you are doing is screaming and trolling people online. That is the intellectual reach of elitist now days.
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Yeah, and my grandmother lived under Nazi Germany, although she was a supporter and not put in any camps. Call me an elitist all you want, I don't care.
I'd be fine with banning political discussion altogether on this site, but until that happens, I'm not going to self-censor as others confidently let their opinions be known.
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