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Though the whole "What I find fascinating is that people still take anything ${A PERSON} says seriously after his trackrecord of non-stop lying, scamming and bllsh*tting right in people's faces for years" routine has been done to death over the past years. It's boring AF now. The only fun aspect of it is that the millions of people who do this all seem to think they're original.

I kindly suggest finding some new material if you want to pursue Internet standup comedy as a career or even a hobby. Thanks!



I didn't read it as attempted comedy. I am genuinely dismayed by how easy it is for grifters to continue to find victims long after being exposed.


"Attempted comedy" is the most charitable take I could give it (and truthfully, I implied something else).

My point is, their statement is quite obviously wrong, but it sure sounds nice. If you don't agree, I challenge you to provide that track record "of non-stop lying, scamming and bllsh*tting right in people's faces for years". Like, for real.

I'm not defending 'sama here; I'm not a fan of his either (but neither I know enough about him to write definite accusatory statements). It's a general point - the line I quoted is a common template, and it's always a ham-fisted way of using emotions in lieu of an argument, and almost always pure bullshit in the literal sense - except, ironically, when it comes to politicians, where it's almost always true (comes with the job), but no one minds when it comes to their favorite side.

Bottomline, it's not a honest framing and it doesn't belong here.


Name an example of something impressive HE built or did or said that was not a lie or scam?

You claim I'm "obviously" wrong. So where are the arguments?




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