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I love Apple subscriptions.

No way for you to scam me or make it hard ro cancel. I can view them all in the apple account subscription view.

No tricks, no unexpected behaviour.



Same with Stripe, minus the 30% fee. Even better, if you accidentally let the renewal happen they will instantly refund in one-click.


This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.


But the only way to have it centralized is to have it integrated in iOS.

Stripe already is a second place, non centralized, off platform.

I don't want to hunt down my predatory subscriptions in multiple places.


Why do you think that's the only way? Payment processors have long been able to differentiate recurring transactions from one-offs. Capital One has subscription management.


How the platform and the vendor split that money is irrelevant to me, and I’m not convinced this would become cheaper - evidently consumers are willing to pay the current price, so why wouldn’t the vendor just increase their profit?

In the same vein: Games don’t cost less on the epic store despite their lower (compared to Steam) either, so as an end user it makes no difference where I buy games.


https://expertbeacon.com/why-epic-games-is-cheaper-than-stea...

Maybe you like paying an extra 20%. That's your business. But fees like that affect the viability of lots of business ideas, including games. Having lower fees increases the pool of indie games.


This IS the free market ya dingus.


It's not a free market without meaningful choice.

You can't say a slave is free because their master is free to enslave them, and they're free to escape if they can. Sometimes you need rules to create real freedom.


That is the free market. That is why libertarians love the free market.


Idk if you just have a bone to pick with libertarians, but monopolized markets by definition are not free markets, regardless of how they arise


Yeah, technically. But just everyone _normal_ just pays using Stripe often without even knowing about it. On the _walled garden_ all is so clear that my 70 years aunt is able to do it. And there is no exceptions to the rule: every subscription made through the App Store is there and it's cancellable...

30% is a robbery, and the confusion on the customer "ownership" is true, but it's not useful for the discussion to negate the advantage the _garden_ offers to the basic consumer


Managing subscriptions in the apple account view, on stripe, on paypal and on whatever other platform wants their cut? No thanks.


As Long As You Never Leave Us You Wouldn't Want To Leave Us Would You Why Would You Betray Us?


> or make it hard ro [sic] cancel

Unless you're trying to cancel the Apple ecosystem as a whole...




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