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the second source shows sales have been increasing.


This threads confusing so I'll jump in!

Well, no, it shows:

2021 < 2023

2022 < 2021

2023 > 2021

2024 ??


2023 > all previous years


That's not true, though!

We can see the bar for 2021 is longer than 2023!

We can see the table value for 2021 is > 2023!

Screenshots, for sales, from 2nd link, i.e. what we are told to look to see 2021 < 2023: https://imgur.com/a/CpGWbWM

(although, my comment makes a hash of the whole thing and says 2021 is both < and > than 2023. Sigh.)

(n.b. not trying to be aggressive, or disagree, or make a statement about the overall premise that sales are declining. Just mildly amused by the confusion in the thread)

(my $0.02 would be that we're seeing the same general stasis that was presumed after the iPhone 6 release, but really, we just need more data (2021 was COVID stimmy high))

(but my $0.02 should be that "yeah stuff plateaued, or at least no more hypergrowth, post-2018" because this is what we were shown on the Pixel team at Google, and a little birdy told me that's how Apple thinks about it)


> but my $0.02 should be that "yeah stuff plateaued, or at least no more hypergrowth, post-2018"

Note that what was being claimed was that “Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting”. Whether iPhone sales are growing, bounced around a bit, or have plateaued is irrelevant. It’s pretty clear they are not plummeting.


Right!

Note that I'm not saying that's true! I didn't say anything about any of that! :)




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