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I hate being cynical, but in LA this ruling means nothing. I can’t remember the last time I saw someone pulled over for a traffic offense.


You’re not being cynical, just realistic. The later model year Mercedes or BMW the more likely I see some thirty something talking into the bottom of her phone. They don’t have Bluetooth on Mercedes?


I'll take that over the eyes in the lap group I see everywhere everyday.


All this tells me is that you live in either North Hollywood, Santa Monica, or Glendale.


I was fined for using a phone a while back. Fine aside it had a very bad impact on my insurance prices.


They didn't give you a driving school option?


They did. I skipped the fine but the real fine was insurance premium going up.


I know somebody who tried to check their phone on a red light and got pulled over/fined for it, this was ~4 weeks ago.

Edit: This was in Riverside County (~60 miles from LA)


Are tinted windows legal in CA? If your windows are super tinted or you car is lifted - it might be quite difficult to see that someone is using their phone.


Some tint is allowed, but the legal limit is rather low. It needs to let in 70% of the light on the front side windows, and nothing is allowed on the front windshield (bar a strip at the top).


If you’re engaged into a serious accident and your phone history shows that you were texting while driving, this law will get you under a pile of trouble.


I send texts via voice command/dictation all the time. How would this be distinguished?


Because the device records detailed usage information with timestamps such as device locks/unlocks, the screen lighting up and going dark, apps going in and out of focus, and in many cases details of exactly what you were doing in the app.

https://cellebrite.com/en/how-a-suspects-pattern-of-life-ana...

https://cellebrite.com/en/samsung-rubin-digital-forensics-va...


I followed the Murdaugh murder case a while back and that level of evidence was critical

The father killed his family and had a pretty good shot at sowing reasonable doubt until they pulled his sons phone telemetry and it showed the son unlocking his phone and checking socials at a time that conflicted with the dads story.

Phones truly are a surveillance dream. You couldn’t ask for a more invasive tracking device, and people love it. You couldn’t pry a phone away from most people these days




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