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TSMC has 83000 employees. If Intel does everything TSMC & NV do, then they should have something like 83000+36000~120000 employees?


The scale isn't really comparable. TSMC manufactures 5x more wafers than Intel, and the disparity is getting exponentially worse every year (see the chart at https://thecuberesearch.com/247-special-breaking-analysis-th...). In fact 30% of Intel's own production is outsourced to TSMC.


Sure but that's different than your original point.


The scale also isn’t linear.


The world isn’t the panning for the 2027 takeover.


Of what?


2027 is the date the CCP has announced for when it'll be militarily ready to invade Taiwan. Whether they actually do so or not is an open question.


Taiwan.


There's other reasons to think it, but 5x wafers on 8x staff seems within the realm of comparable.


My reading of the numbers it should be 0.8x staff. I think you’re off by an order of magnitude.


I sure am. Whoops.

> If Intel does everything TSMC & NV do, then they should have something like 83000+36000~120000 employees?

TSMC is a fab, not a chip designer. And NV makes GPUs and small scale SoCs like the ones in the Nintendo Switch and automotive (IIRC the Tegra SoC that powered the Switch 1 literally was an automotive chip that they repurposed).

That's quite the difference from what Intel makes: CPUs that power a lot of the world's compute capacity for laptops, PCs and servers, wireless chips (Bluetooh+WiFi), their own GPU line...


> IIRC the Tegra SoC that powered the Switch 1 literally was an automotive chip that they repurposed

Tegra was designed for mobile devices like smartphones. The automotive part came later and isn’t particularly relevant. Intel also makes low power SoCs for mobile devices, e.g. Atom.


> Intel also makes low power SoCs for mobile devices, e.g. Atom.

Last time I heard that name was well over a decade ago for crappy "netbook" devices. Just looked it up, last Atom CPU was released in 2013 per Wikipedia [1]. They might still make them for embedded computing purposes with very long life cycles, but no idea at which volume.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom


They still make them, they're just not called Atom anymore.



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