Orion is a struggle on iOS. Despite it claiming to block ads, I find its ad-blocking capabilities heavily overstated - they barely work at all on many sites, even with all the filters enabled, and extension support doesn’t work with adblocking extensions making it a moot point. Right now Old Reddit is flooded with Samsung and other crap ads, even with all the lists turned on and updated.
They started working on a Linux version this year. There are already WebKit based browsers for Linux so definitely it does not have to be confined to macOS.
The only browser that's trying to increase backwards-compatibility! I'm using it on macOS Mojave 10.14.6, and the developers are looking to support High Sierra in the future:
I like Orion on iOS- it’s Safari without all the ads showing up. I can run the DarkReader extension at night just like Safari. Unfortunately it’s the most unstable software on my phone- at times regularly freezing up and then I switch back to Safari.
Only browser I know that has zero telemetry by default, great UI, low battery drain and seamless Kagi integration.
To me Chrome and Firefox are like steampunk borg machines with all that valves and plugs fiddling needed to kid yourself they might do the right thing.
I use one of them, ice-cat, with privacy badger and jslibre and I have tor installed as well as chrome, Firefox, libre wolf, dillo, w3m, Mullvad, links, eww and others because I make oldschool websites. The real no telemetry browser is of course lynx.
I like Orion for its feature that lets me set the whole internet to opt-in mode for javascript. Really a beautiful default for surfing, can't recommend giving it a try enough.
> The only thing I’m missing is multi-account containers, or a way to isolate google or meta products for example into its own profile. But I can live with that for now.
Hmm, “profiles” work fine for me in Orion. A bit different to how Firefox and others achieve MAC, and less full featured maybe, but total separation is possible. You can’t assign sites to profiles but you can open separate profile windows.
Does it support SOCKS proxies now? If FoxyProxy or something like that works for it, I might give it a try. Last I checked, the browser itself only supported HTTP proxies and since Safari based it opened the Network Configuration system preferences page.
Edit: Tested on latest Orion. FoxyProxy silently does not function. You can configure a proxy, you can even enable it but it will just not use it. Still no way to use a SOCKS proxy.
If you want Tor, "torsocks" probably works. I am not sure if it conforms to or cares about environment variables such as "http_proxy" and "https_proxy", or through CLI: "--proxy-server", as some programs do.
I use zen and I am gonna be honest I wouldn't consider it to be buggy and it works really perfect on my linux desktop
But to be fair as it is a linux desktop I am not sure / worried about power consumption so yeah I love zen browser and even some of my friends use this even on their laptops. Would recommend it a 100 times if I could.
For who wants something near similar in other UNIX or Linux, see Luakit, a webkit with customizable adblocker, jsblocker, userscripts and userstyles, vim command alike and fully configurable in Lua.
Browser monoculture is bad. Even if you "ungoogle" chromium, it is still developed by Google. And as long as their market share remains as dominant as it is, they can control the web. Web standards become Google standards.
Hope you don't mind manifest v3 and barely functional adblockers.
https://kagi.com/orion/