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> Cost isn't a factor, I need something reliable.

Don't consider at all: All non-OEM Chinese stuff (1 trillion brands, way too many to list, including the usual consumer garbage that you might find in a store like Reolink etc.)

Consider if cost turns out to be a factor: The two major Chinese OEMs, Hikvision and Dahua.

Note: All Chinese OEMs are obviously implicated in the Chinese surveillance state. Obviously. A lot of "major" brands are OEMed by these two, even ones you might not expect. For example, much of Panasonic stuff is rebadged Dahua. Basically 90% of any CCTV camera Made in China comes from either Dahua or Hik, the lesser brands just mostly get (or rather, choose) the bargain-bin hardware with monkey-model firmware and of course no FW updates ever.

If cost really isn't a factor: Bosch, Axis, Dallmeier, Mobotix

Note: Most of these you cannot buy directly, and the vendor won't talk to you.

> What’s the best, in terms of open source support and reliability?

These are found at completely opposite ends of the spectrum. All good CCTVs cameras use signed and more-or-less well encrypted firmware, even cross-flashing isn't much of a thing.



I think it's worth mentioning that, if you can, set these IP cameras up on a separate VLAN that doesn't have internet access (or access to the rest of your network), run an open source PVR, and use firewall rules to allow the PVR to access the local streams on the IP camera VLAN. I think this mitigates much of the risk of using Chinese OEM cameras.


> I think this mitigates much of the risk of using Chinese OEM cameras.

I see two major problems buying from these companies.

The first is the practical risk that they will deliberately spy on you or just (through poor software quality) make it possible for others to do so. And yeah, putting them in a (V)LAN that can't access the Internet seems more or less sufficient. In theory they could exploit your browser in some way but I don't worry about this too much.

The second is the moral injury from buying from a company that actively participates in the Uyghur genocide. Not just "making cameras that the Chinese government buys through a retailer" but "writing software specifically to identify Uyghur ethnic features" [1] and/or "contracting with the Chinese government to install cameras at internment camps". [2] And there's no simply VLAN configuration that will wipe the blood off your hands.

They're nice cameras especially for the price, and I still use some I bought before I knew about this, but I can't bring myself to buy more or recommend others do so.

fwiw, I'm not aware of any evidence Reolink has participated in this, despite being a Chinese company. I try to stay away from Dahua, Hikvision, and Uniview, which is harder to do than it sounds because they make cameras sold under many brand names.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/world/chinese-tech-patents-t...

[2] https://ipvm.com/reports/hikvision-targeted


Hikvision and Dahua make a lot of cameras but I wouldn't call them the major OEMs, that would probably Ingenic, Goke, HiSilicon, uhhh Sigmastar, probably others I can't recall. If you're looking for one outside the PRC, Novatek is based in Taiwan.


This is pretty much exactly wrong. Dahua and Hikvision are by far the largest OEMs in the industry. The other companies you list are SoC vendors only.


Doesn't Ingenic just make the SoC? For example, Wyze cams use an Ingenic T20, as do a lot of no-name cameras.


I feel like a few of those are SoC and not actual cameras


I've worked with Mobotix cameras before and they are fantastic... also about $3500.

Usually we go for Geovision (still around $300 - $800) or Axis (little higher).


Just looked at our price list and a bunch of Mobotix are now under a $1k... not bad.


A lot of the current Geovision line-up looks suspiciously Dahua to me.


Geovision is Taiwanese and has been around since 1998.




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