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> Both of us had 4.0s.

You are so far removed from the ability of the average student that your personal observations about college simply don't generalize.

> I never spent that much time in Physics I, Calculus I or any English Class.

Do you understand just how far out of the norm that is?

Not everybody is coming from elite high schools and can blow through a college 101 class. The vast majority of engineers fight through all three of those--especially an English composition class. I had friends who did poorly in Calc I, dropped it but stayed in the class just so they plowed through it next semester. These aren't people "fooling around" with bad "time management". They were bog standard state school students who needed to get through, get out, and start making money. They were first college generation who didn't have rich parents backing them. They were motivated and got out in 4 years--something that most college students regard as difficult.

> No one expects anything from you at a summer internship.

Seriously? As a summer intern I always had deliverables. When I became a manager instead, we always had deliverables for co-ops and interns.





I didn’t go to an elite high school or college (my wife did though) my high school was awful. My parents got divorced my junior year and we were on food stamps after that. I went to a state school. And not even a flagship state school.

I dropped out the first time—2 years into a history degree—because I was working full time.

Eventually I moved home, and started over with CS. Despite CS being a lot harder, I had plenty of free time to work on a startup, build side projects, and play video games.

The reason was because a few years of experience made me much better at time management and prioritization.

I’m not saying you or anyone else was bad at time management as an insult. It’s just that college the time in your adult life when you have the absolute least experience at time management, so most people are very bad at it.

But also when you average it over the whole semester, none of my friends, even the ones who were bad at their classes spent 3 hours per credit hour outside of class. The ones who were bad at it tended to just skate by with Cs.

> As a summer intern I always had deliverables.

No one cares about those deliverables though. They aren’t trusting summer interns to do anything that really needs to get done.




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