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Because - They can decide more easily what he works on - They know he loves this work and is very capable of doing it - They can own his output, a competitive advantage - He will likely cost them ~nothing anyway


While that sounds rational, I worry that the same reasoning is not applied in the HR department.

But that might be just my frustration from experiences.

To continue the devil's advocate: why bother with all of this, if the company doesn't have to and the OSS version is enough anyway?


This is an incredibly short-term thinking. The reason is simple: the author is not obliged to continue while this sort of thing can be demoralizing.

I don't know about the author's approach to this matter, but if I would find out that a company is making a killing using my software and then that company would refuse to even give me an interview I'd probably stop loving doing what I do. Sure, the software is under MIT license and it was the author's choice to do so, but what's the point of doing it under such a license when you can't even count of it mattering in a resume? What's the point of providing free labor to a company with revenue in billions? If you look at the author's blogpost, the only benefit the author mentions is making the number of downloads go up and that's just pathetic.

I am reminded of an another, similar case with a library called "FluentAssertions". This library used to be free to use by anyone until the author changed the license and started charging money for commercial use. The author did that because he spend several year maintaining the library on his own time and dime and megacorpos like Microsoft wouldn't even bother to donate despite using it extensively. What happened afterwards was that the author got shat on by everyone on the internet for daring to ask for money. In the company I work for his library has been replaced with an another free fork at a incredibly fast pace. All that free labor and the author got dropped as soon as they fell out of line.

The worst thing is that it wouldn't probably take much to make the author of the library happy. Even if they weren't interested in hiring him they could still acknowledge him, talk to him a bit to maintain good relations, throw him a nice donation as a thank you and now it would be a nice, good PR story instead of an another reminder that corporations are just looking to squeeze out value out of all of us.


Is it short term? Seems like the MS and the others got exactly what they wanted.

Exploiting the passion for free work is a trade that will keep happening as long as there are passionate inexperienced people.


Sorry but have to call b.s. here. Many of us did in fact, in this very forum, kept pointing out that dumping on GPL (and the man and his ideas behind it) was a mistake and that non-gpl oss was for chumps. And we were greyed to oblivion. Same exact story as with surveillance tech.

Hackernews is hugely responsible for many of the ailments of this field in 21st century. Own it.


I don't think we're in disagreement. And it wasn't me greying people out. But yes, I see what you mean by the "spirit of HN".


> Many of us did in fact, in this very forum, kept pointing out that dumping on GPL (and the man and his ideas behind it) was a mistake and that non-gpl oss was for chumps. And we were greyed to oblivion.

I'm not entirely sure that was intentional. On Reddit, it would be called 'brigading', and basically getting your corpo-techbros to -4 and flagkill posts.

If done fast enough, you only need 5 500+ karma accounts to sink a post.

Sometimes, I'll say something unpopular, but defensible. Its interesting to see the dramatic swings those contentious posts take.


The fact that the management of this forum, who are VCs, permitted such a mechanism is part of the "own it, HN" assertion. HN has baked in something like 'peter principle' into the forum. Karma Grifters who post articles that get them over the 500 points are then ala Peter Principle granted the right to 'grey out' actual thoughtful comments.

Are you telling the management of this outfit never looked into this phenomena?

How about ageism? Mr. Paul Graham and personality cult asserting that anyone over 20 something is no longer viable for leading edge tech work?

We used to call these VCs "vulture capitalists" in the 90s. We geeks were so right about so many things in the 90s: We were right about GPL. We were right about VCs. We were right about surveillance tech. We were right about outsourcing ...

But alas, "corpo-techbros" empowered by thoughtless forum software courtesy of Paul Graham and company got into this mess.


> Are you telling the management of this outfit never looked into this phenomena?

To counter, I think that HN is being used as a testcase to shove techbro and VC ideology across all of tech. And secondly, its some of the most potent tech market research. Its a textsearch goldmine.

I believe YC knew what they were doing, and intentionally chose this course of action.

I'm guessing you're not in the VC or founder club. I only found about that https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented

> Additionally, founders of YC companies see each other's usernames show up in orange, which — although not an explicit benefit — does allow fellow YC founders to immediately identify one another in discussions.

Even with the significant bias here, I still read it. I also read lobsters as well, which is here minus techbro insanity.


> I believe YC knew what they were doing, and intentionally chose this course of action.

Seems plausible. They certainly are not dummies. They just have a different 'value system'. So, yeah.

(Thanks for lobsters tip. til.)


They definitely know now, even if it wasn’t the original intent.


How do you get an account though...


> Karma Grifters who post articles that get them over the 500 points are then ala Peter Principle granted the right to 'grey out' actual thoughtful comments.

You've stretched that analogy past the breaking point. Downvotes barely change your role and there's nowhere else to go up from there regardless of your posting quality. Peter Principle does not apply.


HN sentiment is still the same today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44810780 although the comment isn't greyed yet.

According to HN, it's literally impossible to use GPL software and any sentiment against corporations is communist brainwashing.


I guess the author can learn their lesson and not use a permissive software license which lets behemoth corporations do exactly this.

It's very sad, but the resigned and almost subservient tone of the author does not lead me to believe a lesson has been learned.


They probably already have someone working on top of it but it's just closed source because of the license.


But they are hiring someone else to work on it.

> I found out that Anthropic had an open position in the team implementing the secret, unreleased feature of Claude Desktop using enigo




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