I think many women were happy that they could get an education and job to make their life more interesting besides being the house slave of their husband.

Comparing raising your children, cooking food for your family, and maintaining the home to slavery is… quite the position..

It’s certainly hyperbolic but lack of autonomy and complete financial dependence were pretty par for the course for women back in the day.

My grandma slowly squirreled away money in a shoe box over decades as she had no personal bank account and lived on what my grandpa provided while she took care of seven kids. She saw it as her lifeline. Meanwhile he got drunk every night at the yacht club.

When the last of the kids were nearing college she spent that money on classes for clerical work and got a job.

I could not possibly imagine being in her shoes and I can imagine why a woman would be loathe to enter into such dependence on another person, regardless of how fulfilling child rearing and house keeping may be.

And the further you go back from there the worse it looks for women.

100% agreed - the lack of choice is terrible, and society is better now that women have more freedom.

I think what people look back and get nostalgia for is the fact that it was possible for one adult to stay at home full time. Now its not possible; we dont have a choice, everyone must work.

And many couples are tired of both having to go to work and outsource the childcare to third parties to be able to afford the mortgage which is high because everyone has two incomes.

And what about women who love their family and kids and would like to support the family by staying at home? Come on dude, calling it slavery is fucked up.

or men, for that matter. no reason it has to be the woman to stay home and support the family.

Of course. I agree.

Is a cultural perception that raising children and a family is being a slave. I personally find it a disgusting perception. I love my family.

I don't know in what culture you were raised. My culture has no history of systematic wife beating.

What kind of comment is that?

Do you feel superior or somehow you just make my argument not true because it didn't happen to you or anyone you know?

You definitely seem to be genuine asshole and I don't care what culture you were raised in because there are definitely nicer people from that culture.

I'm Jewish. We hold our women in high esteem.

I wouldn't characterize raising a family as slavery, I also won't debate the prevelance of domestic violence in Jewish families (those curious can google it), but pointing out that you're from a culture that represents a rounding error of the world population doesn't strengthen your argument.

I am at the gym, can’t talk.

Bro but you called.

Are you positive about this?

Am I positive about what? That my culture does not have a history of wife beating? Yes, I am positive.

I have no idea what your culture is, but the entire notion that domestic violence is something to be monitored and prevented by outsiders was invented very recently in most cultures. So my assumption is that it was pretty damn widespread everywhere, no matter what our ancestors like to tell us.