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Oh, I'm well aware how Europe is and has been dependent on Russian fossil fuels. It's not simple to just end it quickly, but the progress is ongoing.

I meant mostly everything else in your comment.



Is European industry not mostly relocating to Asia?


I don't know, how does it relate to the claims in your comment?


> EU in practice serves no other function but to deindustrialize Europe and make it entirely dependent on the US, but even more so, China and Russia.

If EU is doing something, and what it is doing is resulting in the deindustrializing EU and making EU dependent on Russia and China ... that is the entirety of my claim.

You could say that it's not in China's interest to have EU dependent on it, maybe, that is a pretty wild claim, but maybe. But we have seen how dependence on despotic powers has worked out with Russia, and it has not gone swimmingly.

China is also incidentally one of the biggest buyers of Russian gas today. All the gas that Europe no longer buys from Russia goes to China on the cheap so they can further undercut European industry.


Just because industry moves to Asia (not purely european phenomenon), it obviously doesn't mean EU serves no other function. Or that moving industry is EU's goal per se. It's a bit more complicated and I'm sure you're aware, but it's hard to take you seriously because of such "hot takes".


Most of its other functions are completely negated if Europe becomes an effective vassal of foreign powers. You can prevent war by surrendering pre-emptively, but I don't want to surrender pre-emptively.




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