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I'm totally unaware of anything related to Discord or its reputation, other than having joined a PicoCalc server (board? group) and it seems fine. What's up with Discord?


The UX is even worst than facebook groups if that is even possible.


I loathe most of Facebook, but private Facebook groups work enormously better than Discord, IMO. (Public groups are nearly worthless)

Discord is a distracting fidgety visually overloaded place.


Facebook at least can have public groups that get indexed by the search engines.

since web crawlers can't join non-public group chats, nothing there gets indexed and chats don't show up in web searches. This is opposed to bulletin boards like phpbb or even google groups and listservs where all the messages are submitted to a public repo. This is a choice by discord to give users a feeling of being in a private space, but it's kind of like being in a signal chat, the illusion only holds as long as you know and trust everyone in the group to not just screenshot all of it, so in that sense I appreciate Bluesky's choice to be public first. Somehow no one has rebuilt phpbb on atproto tho, seems like a minor rejiggering of the feeds-of-tweets interface. old forums didn't have threading anyway.

Anyway, it annoys me how there's all these open source projects that ostensibly believe in the mission of open source software, but they're all on proprietary third party hosted discrods when self hosting zulip or element is right there, in this sense facebook is better because




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