It's a common accusation of pro-Israel side that the whole world is so blindly and forcefully pro-Hamas that Israel can and must to do whatever it takes, even bending or breaking rules it would otherwise respect.
IME this is just not true. Sure, antisemitism is real, especially among certain strata of the society.
BUT in the main, my observation is that no one supports Hamas or their approach. Even people who are very critical of Israel in the West (but not beyond the line of fringe, rabid antisemitism) state that 7/10 attacks were horrific and Hamas is a terrible terrorist org.
I can't help but feel that the "whole world hates us" view is a hyperbola, at some level deliberate, to justify doing whatever Israel wants to civilian Palestinians.
If you look at israels definition for hamas and what the lavendar system will designate as a valid target (targets being bombed in an automated workflow with zero human oversight), all non-jewish-israeli might just be hamas in their eyes. It might just be israel will stop its war when the world is israel.
> The real reason there is such a huge backlash against her is because anyone with room temperature iq would predict that that would be how Israels opponents would take it,
What matters more, prosecuting rapists or protecting Israel's reputation? That's not really a question, I already have your answer.
I strongly condemn the October terrorist attack but I don’t see how someone can defend the morality of the IDF after the Gaza campaign.
We are talking of an army arbitrarily establishing no go zone in the middle of streets, not publishing them and then having snipers shoot down civilians crossing these imaginary lines including the ones coming to get back the corpses of their murdered family members. An army so blood thirsty they shot their own defenceless hostage who came in front of them with hands raised.
It’s pretty clear at that point that the IDF has absolutely no moral. This doesn’t in any way mean I support Hamas.
> have not just been subject to disinformation ,but actively spread it.
Just to be clear because this comment is ambiguous. Both of my statements come from internationally reputable sources including Israeli one. There is an interview with IDF snipers where they openly state what I wrote - video is available on sky news - and multiple accounts in Haaretz. The hostages killing by the IDF was a scandal inside Israel and completely true.
Both statements are beyond doubts. Could you be so kind as to point the disinformation I’m allegedly spreading?
"Both statements are beyond doubts. Could you be so kind as to point the disinformation I’m allegedly spreading?"
Sure StopDisinfo910. You're spreading the following disinformation:(1) that the IDF establishes control lines arbitrarily; (2) that these lines are always unpublished and invisible; (3) that the IDF purposefully shoots innocent palestinian civilians; (4) that the IDF has a bloodlust that leads it to want to kill even their own hostages.
1. The IDF does not establish what you call "no go zones" arbitrarily.
You wrote:
"We are talking of an army arbitrarily establishing no go zone in the middle of streets"
The lines the IDF establishes, for example the yellow-line, are not arbitrary but rather the result of extensive negotiation and both tactical and strategic considerations.
"and then having snipers shoot down civilians crossing these imaginary lines"
First, the lines are not "imaginary" - they're very real, which is why people get shot when crossing them. Second, can you prove that snipers shot down innocent civilians specifically? You say they are civilians - are you able to distinguish them from palestinian militants, who fight without uniform? Do you have a video that shows the IDF sniper shooting an innocent civilian with a time, date, geolocation data? If so, what were the names of the people who were shot? Third, in all wars crossing frontlines is going to be fatal, civilian or militant. Try walking around Pokrovsk right now, or in the DMZ. You'd get the same result. There's nothing different about crossing an IDF line.
". An army so blood thirsty they shot their own defenceless hostage who came in front of them with hands raised."
Do you really thing bloodthirst is what caused the IDF to kill their own hostages? How do you square that with the fact that they're willing to risk so much to save and recover hostages? A more likely explanation is that the IDF mistakenly thought the escaped hostages were palestinian militants. They were in a warzone, military age men, and the IDF thought the escaped hostages were trying to lure them into an ambush -- the same type of ambush that killed many other IDF soldiers in booby trapped buildings. Friendly fire is a fact of war, it doesn't prove bloodlust.
Gaza is the most filmed war in history. If the IDF were massacring civilians en masse, as Hamas did on October 7, there would be many clear videos of these massacres, with both the IDF soldiers and the innocent civilians in view. There's none.
"Both statements are beyond doubts. "
I have reasonable doubts about them, and the onus is on you to prove your quixotic explanations about "arbitrary lines" and the like. as you can see, so they are not.
