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You don't think it's important to factor in what the Ukrainian citizens themselves want?




I know of Ukrainian anarchists who were fighting but then became very disillusioned with how the war was going and left. I’ve met plenty of young Ukrainians who also left because they didn’t want to die. If all Ukrainians wanted to fight in this war why are so many paying bribes so that they don’t have to go fight? Why do they pay bribes so that they don’t get sent on suicide missions. I assume that the average person just wants to live their life in peace. If war got the popular vote there would be no more or far fewer wars.

I hate all these power hungry psychos like Victoria Neuland and Putin who helped manufacture this civil war just so that they could get a little cut of the bounty. How people still believe capitalists states work in their interest is beyond me. Hunter Biden was earning 100x what the average Ukrainian earned in consulting fees in Ukraine. The whole point of the Ukrainian state since the collapse of the the USSR has been to shovel money from the state into the hands of which ever elite currently controlled the country it’s irrelevant whether they were backed by the west or Russia.


"I know of Ukrainian anarchists"

Anarchists are a very tiny minority everywhere. It does not make sense to judge the entire country by them.

"If all Ukrainians wanted to fight in this war"

They don't, but neither do all Russians. Moscow is trying really hard to avoid general mobilization.


> because they didn’t want to die

Kinda answered your own question there. Idealism only takes most people so far.




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