I think what it comes down to is that the advocates making false claims are relatively uncommon on HN. So, for example, I don't know what advocates you're talking about here. I know people exist who say they can vibe-code quality applications with 100k LoC, or that guy at Anthropic who claims that software engineering will be a dead profession in the first half of '26, and I know that these people tend to be the loudest on other platforms. I also know sober-minded people exist who say that LLMs save them a few hours here and there per week trawling documentation, writing a 200 line SQL script to seed data into a dev db, or finding some off-by-one error in a haystack. If my main or only exposure to AI discourse was HN, I would really only be familiar with the latter group and I would interpret your comment as very biased against AI.
Alternatively, you are referring to the latter group and, uh, sorry.
The whole point I tried to make when I said “you need to learn how to use it” is that it’s not vibe coding. It has nothing to do with vibes. You need to be specific and methodological to get good results, and use it for appropriate problems.
I think the AI companies have over-promised in terms of “vibe” coding, as you need to be very specific, not at all based on “vibes”.
I’m one of those advocates for AI, but on HN it consistently gets downvoted no matter how I try to explain things. There’s a super strong anti-AI sentiment here.
Alternatively, you are referring to the latter group and, uh, sorry.