Highlights: He had a full PDP-8 in his garage in 1972, and released the first cartridge-based video game system for Fairchild.

  BE: Did you talk to Steve Jobs and Wozniak back then?

  JL: I was not impressed with them — either one, in fact. What happened was that when I had the
  video game division [at Fairchild], and I was the chief engineer, I interviewed Steve Wozniak
  for a job to work for us. Well, my guys were kind of impressed with him at first, and I said I
  wasn’t. Never had been.