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Agreed.

I also see a market for a mail-service like Gmail, but operated from a company within Europe, so it has to adhere to European standards for data protection and privacy.



Google is based in Europe. When you as a European create an account with you enter into an agreement with the European subsidiary of that company.


I'm not so sure American authorities would respect that agreement if they decided they didn't want to for what ever jumped up anti-terror or copyright violation they can come up with. Is the EU really going to do anything anti US if some CIA bloke spys on my email? Would it even know? Would I know? Hell, in the UK international news organisation spy on the public, and that's pretty much fine. Of course the plebs get in trouble, but those at the top? Makes me laugh.

Besides, I have to ask. Why is any one who requires actual privacy on the internet or using tech at all? These days, if I wanted to communicate my evil intent to another party, I think I use lemon juice and a carrier pigeon, or something. I certainly would not be using the internet. Using the internet these days is like planning a heist in a loud voice in a busy pub. If you do it and get caught, well, you're an idiot and Darwin swings in to action. Same now with the internet.

The solution to privacy on the internet is simple to me: stop using it, there isn't any. The idea that the internet affords privacy is dead, if it were ever true in the first place. Lets stop pretending other wise and stop even wasting our time and energy trying to hold back the tide. Certainly trusting government to protect our privacy is, well, at best, amusing.

In fact, where did we ever get the idea that we had some right to privacy on the internet in the first place? We never ever did. We just assumed we did. All that's happening now is a long sad education process were we learn that our naive assumption was totally wrong.

Hm. Well that's depressing.


Which obviously does not apply to Americans, or the rest of the world for that matter. The whole point of this thread is to have privacy and data protection for everybody -- regardless of nationality.


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