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Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim (guardian.co.uk)
113 points by teawithcarl on July 12, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 30 comments


So, lavabit.com just got a whole load more customers.


>Lavabit will only release private information if legally compelled by the courts in accordance with the United States Constitution.

Strange that Snowden decided to choose this one.


I'm curious if his PGP signature was redacted from the email with the cell phone number.


I imagine the first few people to e-mail that address from the U.S. are going to make some new friends shortly, as well.


I found what appears to be a PGP key of his a few weeks ago:

http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&se...

I thought about signing it and sending it back to the keyserver but didn't feel like having a discussion with the feds.


Sorry, I don't follow? Was that mentioned in the article?


Snowden's email address at the top of the letter.


Thanks, overlooked that.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BO-PPaVCEAAlIKH.jpg:large

Picture from the airport 15 min ago. Is Snowden in the middle?


I find it disconcerting that a significant portion of those invited are simply "too busy" to attend. Wouldn't you WANT human rights activists to stir trouble instead of avoiding it?


I also find it a bit strange than a Human Right Activist would just put the letter on her frigging facebook wall


With his email, thank you, now commence the spamming by NSA.

What is this 1999, when 99% of the people seem to be computer illiterate? On her facebook wall she posts his email and letter in full!? Well, seems we are at the point of frictionless sharing, let the hacking begin people - nothing is secret, no respect for anyones privacy!


It is perhaps a polite way of saying they do not wish to be a part of it?

And no, I don't think human rights activists goal should be to cause the most trouble.


Here's The Guardian's LIVE BLOG of the Snowden human rights meeting, and subsequent press conference. (excellent)

http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-...


Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed."

Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating factor in breaking the law. I hope he does not get screwed over too badly and eventually has a normal life.


Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also).

Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago.

Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.


rate limiting != censorship


To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.


Which is fair -- do we really need 4+ front page stories about this same event?


When something of value to this community I dare to say yes.

For instance http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png


But most of them link to essentially the same thing, not different perspectives on the same event. It just fragments the discussion.


Yep you're right. In this case we should mainly ignore other sources than those picked by Snowden himself. At least for the sake of keeping the discussions concentrated under trusted posts.


The fact remains - the Guardian's LIVE BLOG, which has been the definitive news source of this worldwide news for the last 4-5 hours -- never made it onto HN's homepage.


That's cool the airport is letting him stay there. I wonder how his conditions are. Good food, a bed?


The international "no man's land" is more than just an airport terminal. You can take a bus to a hotel and still technically not be on russian soil.

Here is an article by a CNN reporter who checked it all out personally: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/world/europe/russia-snowden-go...


I don't think they have much choice. He can't leave with out a passport and technically has entered Russia.


Would he need a passport for a flight on a private jet? If so, couldn't Venezuala grant him one?


This has to be fake. An email "allegedly" from Snowden with no PGP signature?

(edit): And this is suggestive:

ed_snowden@lavabit.com -- someone associated this address to some PGP key in 2010

edsnowden@lavabit.com -- no results


Who says that is the only letter. It is just one of the many. Also other means of communication/confirmation were possible.


Here's this best LIVE BLOG of the breaking news in the Moscow airport --

http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_07_12/Snowden-meets-human-rights...




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