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I guess this is not the year FreeBSD gets a decent package manager (for binaries).. :( Maybe next year.



No I am not. I said "decent", this implies at least "usable". It'd be nice to get that done by the time it hits stable, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


> No I am not.

Yes you are.

> I said "decent", this implies at least "usable".

Agreed.

> It'd be nice to get that done by the time it hits stable, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

pkgng has been usable for over a year. Read the page I linked too.


I'm still not wrong. :)

Pkgng itself seems like it's working, but bootstrapped fresh on a FreeBSD 9.1 it provided a non-existing repo:

[root@freebsd91 ~]# cat /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf packagesite: http://pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest

And that URL is actually a 404 page.

Additionally the existing binary repos (the one pkg_add uses) cannot be used with pkgng.

So essentially - unless you want to start building packages and maintaining repos - pkgng is at this moment _useless_.

I do wonder if they'll manage to come up with decent[1] repos in time for the final release.

[1] - providing many packages and updates like in the linux distros world, not just "set it and leave it" as they do with the current repos.


> I'm still not wrong. :)

Yes, you are.

> So essentially - unless you want to start building packages and maintaining repos - pkgng is at this moment _useless_.

Well since that is the point of pkgng I'm not sure what you're griping about. The effort of it? poudriere allows pretty trivial building and automated repo generation. Is it a little more effort than typing apt-get update? Yup. But you aren't at the whim of repo maintainers on getting new packages in(like most stale Linux distros), or with ideal compile time options, or trying to find a repo that has the packages you're seeking.

> [1] - providing many packages and updates like in the linux distros world, not just "set it and leave it" as they do with the current repos.

With pkgng, you control when the repo is updated and what is updated. It's negligible effort to do so since it's a product of the ports system. I'm not sure what distro you've been using that leaves you with such pie in the sky attitude but it isn't one I'm familiar with. The enterprise distro are all horribly out of date, the bleeding edge are inappropriate for production use, and the in-betweens give you problems from both ends.




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