Neither Tizen nor Bada are realistic competitors for Android outside of Korea. Certainly not anymore than Meego was an Android competitor - and Nokia actually had a lot of really great software engineers working for them. That's something that's hard to say about Samsung considering Touchwiz. And neither Bada nor Tizen has any significant ecosystem of apps.
This isn't a competitive edge against Huawei and ZTE because no one buys Samsung phones for their software.
Tizen can run android apps. So they have the largest ecosystem. Samsung has a huge brand, they could easily make Tizen a competitor by deploying it on Galaxy Phone in the future. Consumers wouldn't know (or care).
Not sure how you can judge a whole companies software engineers, based on one project (Touchwiz).
Tizen can run android apps. So they have the largest ecosystem.
No they don't. Android has the largest ecosystem. They're riding on Android's train - they don't have their own train. And they're on the Android train with Huawei. And if they're dumb enough to jump off the train, then they're in the bushes.
Samsung has a huge brand, they could easily make Tizen a competitor by deploying it on Galaxy Phone in the future. Consumers wouldn't know (or care)
No they couldn't. Brand doesn't count for anything if you're selling the same stuff your competitor is. Substitutability. The top phones from Apple, Samsung, and HTC offer more for more money than what Huawei can offer right now because there's room for mobile hardware innovation, and that's what they do best. Once they hit a ceiling - no more pixels to add to the screen, no more transistors on the CPU without exceeding a reasonable thermal envelope - then its all Huawei's game. The only one of those three that stands a chance is Apple because they have their own ecosystem.
Samsung has more brand recognition than Huawei. And it doesn't matter a whit. They'll still get steam-rolled once the ppi wars are over and we're buying based on price. This is the grim reality that Samsung shareholders have been realizing.
Not sure how you can judge a whole companies software engineers, based on one project (Touchwiz).
I've owned many Samsung products and have had no good experiences with their software or drivers. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but so far they seem to fit the stereotype of the hardware-company-that-doesn't-get-and-can't do-software.
This isn't a competitive edge against Huawei and ZTE because no one buys Samsung phones for their software.