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For me, I don't like to cook or cleanup. I'd rather pay 10 USD for a salad then to deal with any of the preparation myself. I'd much rather spend my time coding, reading, working out, etc.

So being near a bunch of different types of food is a must for me.



The time argument makes zero sense. Going out to eat takes much more time than stocking and eating various zero prep foods. You don't have to cook to get complete nutrition. I often go days eating just bread, cheese/milk, OJ, and softboiled eggs, and maybe a carrot.


It's not about nutrition, it's about taste and variety. I can put together a fridge full of zero-prep foods that's nutritionally sufficient, but I'll probably want to shoot myself after 2 weeks.

Also, one of the "things" about NYC is that going out to eat doesn't take much more time. Having food prepared for you is not an event, and you don't need to drive a few miles to get to a restaurant. From my apartment I can be ass-in-seat at 4-5 different eateries in the amount of time it'd take for you to start the car and pull out of the driveway. There's a reason so many of us complain about our small apartments but wouldn't trade them in for anything.

NYC has nearly perfected the craft of preparing food for you cheaply, quickly, and tastily. You can eat cuisines from the world over, a new one each day, without breaking the bank and without traveling more than 10 minutes from your home.

The sheer density of restaurants also helps quality. The are so many restaurants offering similar cuisines in any given area that they compete fiercely on price and quality. The result is that you can get an amazing quality of food at sub-suburban prices.

Even if you prepare your own food, in NYC the grocery is so close by you can buy in small volume and wide variety. You can practice an incredibly varied menu in your own kitchen because you don't have to buy in anything resembling bulk. You can buy just enough of some ingredient for one meal, and switch to something entirely different the next day, with little logistical impact. Swinging by the bakery for a fresh loaf of bread is a matter of course - you don't have to pull into a parking lot, park the car, or anything - it's just on your way from wherever you were going.

The "sell" for NYC food is a combination of variety, quality, and price.


It's so nice for you to have your varied tastes catered to every meal, that you don't have to fix anything yourself because you don't "like to cook or cleanup", and would never live anywhere besides SF or NYC, so you don't have to shoot yourself, but seriously get some perspective.


It is not really just about the restaurants. For example, there is this grocery store in midtown NYC. There are spices there that you cannot fucking literally find in Austin or even San Francisco. Ground fucking mango powder? Boom. Moroccan meat rub? Yes, certainly. That Afghan syrup that you put in water and you grew up drinking? Easy. I have lived in three continents for 3/4th of my life and I have not seen such an amazing place. This is the Istanbul Grand Bazaar compacted in one tiny store in Manhattan. This is the New York Experience.

Some people really like food. You want to live elsewhere? More power to you. Just don't fucking trivialize the reason why other people want to live their own life the way they want to.


I didn't have a problem with the OP living life the way they wanted to; it was the tone that was really irritating and implying that anyone else not making the same choices was doing so out of personal preference, rather than out of necessity.

It's nice that you're able to buy exotic spices where you live, but i'm fine with how you said it because you didn't say something like: you couldn't live anywhere else besides where you are or you'd shoot yourself. Or that you use exotic spices in your cooking because you enjoy variety in your life. Don't we all!


Just to be puckish: you can get amchoor ("ground fucking mango powder") at pretty much any Indian grocery. If you search for ["amchoor" "san francisco"] (not "ground mango powder"), you'll find Yelp'ers and Chowhounder'ers comparing SF stores on price for it. :)

That Afghan syrup you put in water and you grew up drinking, you may have me there.


I suspect he is referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooh_Afza

which can usually be found by poking around the shelves of Indian stores in bigger cities. Certainly Austin and SF would have it, it might take some phone calls to locate though.


Wow, that store sounds awesome. I'll have to check it out. Where/what is it?



Cool, thanks!


Uhh... did you miss the entire third of the post where I specifically talked about cooking in the city?


That has nothing to do with why i objected to your post. A lot of people would make the same choices as you if they could, but there are hard limits in their lives that keep them from doing that (income, family, disability). Just please be aware of how good you have it, and that being able to live the way you do is awesome; most of the time people don't get a lot of choice about certain constraints in their lives; if it was a choice they'd choose much the same as you.


I live in an urban neighborhood and don't have a car. I still prefer to simply take high quality produce out of the fridge over getting who-really-knows-for-sure from some fly-by-night hawker. That stuff is all loaded with cheap oils.

If I'm going to eat out, it's a rare treat and I'm going to drop a couple hundred at a highly reputable place. To consider restaurants and food stands as part of your day to day life style is crazy to me. Just my opinion.


I guess if I was just sitting there doing nothing waiting on my food to be cooked, sure. But I often read, sketch out ideas for my current project, figure out what my next goal in working out will be, etc. And given where I live right now, I can be to a restaurant and seated in about 5 or 10 minute walk.

And bread, cheese/milk, egg and carrot - wow. How boring. Just because I don't want to cook doesn't mean I don't want my food to be good, flavorful, and exciting. I like food. I like hot, prepared food.


Obviously, different people get different amounts of pleasure from eating, and specifically eating a wide variety of flavors and types of food. It's not that hard to imagine someone who derives a lot of pleasure from eating "exotic" food wanting to live somewhere where they could easily do that, is it?




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