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Not a big fan of metaphors like "dead wood" to describe employees.

Regarding the "tons of middle managers" (another dehumanizing expression imo.) - I haven't met anyone just "sitting for years" and happily "causing obstructive damage" yet. I have however met quite a few where it took me some time to appreciate their work (looked like nothing/trivial from the outside) and realize their failed struggle with organizatorial constraints on their work.

Apologies if I am reading too much into your post. However, there seems to be pervasive contempt for the people affected by layoffs in threads like these that's unnecessary and unwarranted.



Facts of life at Microsoft:

- There is dead wood. People who do negative work, or who do not add value, only process, to shipping products

- There are toxic middle-to-upper level managers. These people exist; I have personal experience with one who I believe is an actual psychopath

- There are many partner-level people who have essentially reduced their careers to manipulation of other people's careers, by canceling products, or getting people canned or quashing promotions, or backing poor promotions.

I don't think it's hyperbole to say that middle management at Microsoft is riddled with "dead wood".


Very thoughtful, thanks. I too had probably been swept along by the generalisations of people, but they're just that - real people with real problems and situations.




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