At the risk of sounding like an asshole. The themes on prebootstrap is pretty average at best. Alternatives like bootswatch.com offers far better themes.

Sure, but there is a bit of variety in this collection. bootswatch.com just look like different colour themes to me.

I took this as a quick intro to snippets of Bootstrap features. Ex: Logins and stuff. It does say "pre" bootstrap so I'm sure that was the intended purpose for this.

I don't see 'pre' - I see 'prep'. ??

If you are seeking more template-y types of stuff, check out http://www.bootstrapstage.com/

Great resource! This is also worth attention: http://bootswatch.com/. I have zero-to-none design skills and using these themes makes my chrome extensions design look acceptable (well, almost)

it saved me some work recently as I got to the 'ok, time to dress this up a bit' phase of a project. still recognizable as Bootstrap, but also an easy way to inject a bit of design and good taste in a prototype.

I don't want to sound mean, but most of them look very amateurish at best.

I know what you mean, but there is surprising, err, "design value" in keeping the layout minimal.

In any event, the simpler the layout, the less work the browser layout engine has to do, and the snappier everything is.

I don't think the issue is that they're minimal. These lack in design aesthetic. They are just plain ugly in most cases.

You can can certainly have a minimal design while maintaining a high-quality aesthetic: https://dribbble.com/search?q=minimal

I believe they intend for you to use them as building blocks. You can use their layouts to get your idea on the screen, then add additional CSS in order to 'make it your own'.

Another good source to get some bootstrap snippets http://bootsnipp.com/

Don't waste your time and just head to wrapbootstrap.com.

Even for a side project it's worth paying $15 to get an actually good looking template.

There's a lot of value in free templates.

They're the only resource available if you have to do coursework, or you live in a country where access to international credit cards is not trivial for example.

I now have an international credit card, but for a long time my barrier was not money, but money transmission :) , I would have gladly paid U$ 5 or 10 or even 15. Most of the credit cards issued here in Uruguay are local-only, and the requirements are pretty hefty (more than half the population is not eligible for an international credit card).

I purchased a template for my side project, on ThemeForest (they have some Bootstrap-based templates over there too).

http://themeforest.net/

not when the 'templates' are just cut and pasted form elements from the docs.

if you're doing any kind of course work in web design, you need to be able to compose the majority of this stuff yourself from just the docs.

I was thinking more along the lines of classes which I took in the past, for example a course in Java, where one of the items was a JSF-based web site, which I plugged to a free bootstrap template, where web design wasn't the focus and I was busy trying to understand other things.

I agree that if you work in web design, you should know to do this stuff from the docs.

Wrapbootstrap does not have the diversity in their 'components' category that I see in this link.

Might as well plug my free(mium) themes: http://www.portnine.com/bootstrap-themes

Not sure about this. It seems kind of wierd for the 'login' templates to have a confirm password box. In my book startbootstrap has an advantage.

None of these Bootstrap 3 themes seem to just replace /bootstrap/css/bootstrap-theme.css which makes them pretty daft.

What do you mean?

He doesn't understand that "cascading" part of CSS. Replacing core bootstrap files wouldn't make any sense, and it's better to add them downstream so that they can be changed or removed or whatever.

This is not true.

I downloaded at the dark blue admin theme, it uses a separate file to apply the theme (local.css).

It would be nice to have Less files, instead of css though.

Looks like the folks behind this are doing real estate tech. Can I ask y'all what the product is?

Tennessee...

Interesting how there are dozens of sites for bootstrap but so few for Foundation.

I see some different layouts you can make with boostrap but no actual themes?