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This is how the world works. Everyone pretends that the US only is the problem and says 'well it's the US so we can't do anything' but in reality the entire West acts as one. I mean what are you going to do hate the entire West?


> ... in reality the entire West acts as one.

You might have to narrow the definition of 'reality' somewhat for that to become true.


Where is Snowden welcome in the West?


Iceland, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Norway all said they'd consider his asylum request if he made it from their soil, as their laws require.

We don't have to go far to find examples that disprove your "West acts as one" assertion. This is a thread about North Korea, so I give you Hans Brix (or Hans Blix if you prefer), and the failure of the USA to secure a UN resolution in 2003. The USA couldn't even convince France or Germany that the Iraq invasion was justified (let alone wise). If it wasn't for Tony Blair the list of US allies would have been very very thin indeed.


So you have one example of one disagreement about a war which was run from Germany even though they disagreed.


I think that you have a different definition of "acts as one" than most people. Most "Western" countries have extradition treaties. Even if they didn't, it is known that the CIA operates within their borders, even if they don't like it.

Also, there are plenty of non-Western countries were Snowden wouldn't go too. I'm pretty sure that had he remained in China, he wouldn't be in as good of a position as he is now. Is China part of the "West" that "acts as one?" Hardly.


European governments did not say you are welcome to come but the CIA still might get you, they said he is not welcome. The longer Europeans pretend that their governments are not complicit the easier it is to keep the status quo.


Saying "I don't want to deal with this issue" is also different from saying "I am acting in concert with you, we are part if a hive-mind that speaks with a single voice, and 0 dissent," which is what you originally implied (and held up the treatment of Snowden as 'proof' of).


A lot of people do.




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