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Which is exactly why I was specific: it depends on which part of Europe you're talking about.

Nordic countries have about 25 million people total. Well, the US has 320 million people, and a lot more people in the US live under a 1.x murder rate than do in Nordic countries.

I typically see people make comparisons using the Nordic countries for everything in Europe, while ignoring the half of Europe that is problematic for those comparisons. The US compares extraordinarily well to the Nordic countries, if you want to do an Apples to Apples comparison, since the Nordics represent the elite outcomes of Europe - then let's compare using the elite outcomes of the US; ie the top 10% of Europe vs the top 10% of the US.




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