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Except quite a few of us can't stand them for various reasons:

* the os does not feel practical (menu bar on only one screen? No universal home/end? No universal way to jump/select words like (ctrl + ->, ctrl + shift + -> on Windows and Linux) * non-standard keyboard layout, no way to adjust it (specifically fn/end)

Mind you, I am a fan of Macs and recommend friends trying them but I don't want one as long as I cannot afford one laptop for work and another for photos and stuff.

(btw: I didn't downvote you)




Plus the macbooks get stupidly hot. Closest I've felt was some junk HP. The keyboard is a joke. The clickpad is annoying. It's obviously all form over function.

The screen's fantastic, and I guess some people like the shiny metal look. It's got decent hardware, and lots of video out ports. Except, no TPM or other secure storage. And they don't see to take the "let's expose PCIe on outside ports" problem seriously.

Unfortunately, Lenovo is running after them blindly, destroying the work IBM has done on the ThinkPad. I suppose there just aren't enough users with $$$$ to spend to counter the trendy shoppers.


FWIW, OS X has a menu bar on every screen since 10.9, and you can indeed jump/select words, just substitute Option in place of Control (always been that way AFAIK).

What's "the standard" keyboard layout? Looking forward to that one. :)


> FWIW, OS X has a menu bar on every screen since 10.9,

Good. About time should we say? I left Apple three years ago.

> and you can indeed jump/select words, just substitute Option in place of Control (always been that way AFAIK).

Except if you use another application, then you have to use CMD or fn. But careful, cause in a third application that is a substitute for home/end.

> What's "the standard" keyboard layout? Looking forward to that one. :)

It's easier to tell when someone breaks it:

* Adding shortcut keys on the sides of the keyboard so that I end up starting 5 calculators. (my wifes hp compaq)

* Not putting ctrl in the lower left corner, nor letting me remap it, causing frustration every time I move from the full size Apple keyboard to the laptop or between almost any other machine and an Macbook. (Some thinkpads fails here but at least then you can change it in bios.)

* not having home and end keys nor any consistent way of replacing them.

Again I'm an Apple fan and I am happy that they saved us from older Windows phones but it is not for everyone.




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