American politicians are, for very good reasons, defensive about coming off as Socialist (except Bernie Sanders). Coming off as Marxist is completely out of the picture.

But 'patio11 is not a politician and I expect his language reflects strength of feeling more than anything else.

> But 'patio11 is not a politician and I expect his language reflects strength of feeling more than anything else.

Yeah... strength of feeling of being perceived as "un-American".

If I meant that I wouldn't have bothered commenting as that is what you were saying in the first place.

Healthy marxism and healthy capitalism actually look pretty similar. A free market for people, aware of their market value and able to move between employers without artificial restriction looks a whole lot like the proletariat seizing the means of production.