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> I can't agree with this more. As much as I sympathize with entrepreneurs and managers having trouble hiring engineers in this current environment, I feel like "they" brought it on themselves because wages were probably below what they should've been for years, and because of that, supply became depressed.

Correction: they are below what people of the quality they want are willing to work for. There are plenty of engineers willing to work for those salaries; the vast majority get rejected.

Whether these entrepreneurs and managers actually need the level of quality they are seeking is a subject for a different religious debate.



> Whether these entrepreneurs and managers actually need the level of quality they are seeking is a subject for a different religious debate.

I'd say its more accurate to say "The quality of engineers isn't effectively determined in most hiring processes."




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